Wednesday, April 10, 2013

Referee gets punched out!

In the very last play of the Sudan vs Poland game in Wednesday's quarterfinals, the referee got punched in the face by #12 on Sudan. The ref dropped like a sack, everyone kind of looked on in shock, the teams left the field (Sudan first, to boos from the crowd and some of the players giving the finger to the spectators) and that was it.

The sharp jab was preceded by a whole ton of events. In chronological order:

1. With nine minutes left in the second half there is a hard foul on a Poland player. Pushing and shoving happens. Suddenly a really hard push, and then a punch thrown. The benches clear. Now we see multiple shoves, a few obvious punches and a flying kick to the back by a Sudan player to a Poland player. One of the people on the Sudan bench chases the referee but doesn't get thrown out.\

2. Rough play continues for the remainder of the game. Sudan has essentially lost so they don't care. Nothing serious though.

3. Last minute of play there is a bouncing ball near the middle of the field. Chewy for Poland goes up to head the ball. #12 for Sudan jumps in the air and lays out Chewy with a crazy body check, comes nowhere near the ball. Obvious red card, seriously. Referee goes right to the back pocket and approaches #12. About 3 feet away. Brings out the red card. Reaction is instant and #12 (who is quite tall) gives a lightning-quick jab that catches the referee right on the chin. The referee drops to the ground and lies motionless.

4. Shock from everyone. Assistant referees get in there right away and clear everyone out. People make sure the ref is OK.

5. Referee eventually gets up and walks off. Not for certain, but he seemed to be all right.

6.Someone has called the cops in the meantime. At least six officers on the field and around the facility.

7. Word is that neither of the teams was allowed to leave the dressing room area until all of the spectators were gone, for safety reasons. People had already been thrown out earlier in the night for trying to fight people on the Sudan and Nigeria squads.

8. I'm guessing that charges will be laid. You can't strike a referee in front of hundreds of witnesses and think there will be no repercussions.

67 comments:

Anonymous said...

That's insane! Who Would think it's okay to hit an official, or anyone in the face like that? Crazy! What did #12 do after he hit the ref? Probably should have called the game after the brawl.

Riggs

Anonymous said...

Curious...who was the ref? I missed the games tonight. :-(

Anonymous said...

Wow. So insane. Would have loved to have been there.

Anonymous said...

I feel for the ref but he Definitely should have called the game after the bench brawl.

Also to clarify the "crazy body check", Straight elbow to chewy's face. Reckless!!

Worst part, Sudan's fans claiming racism?? give me a break..

Anonymous said...

tipps got the flying kick to the back!

Anonymous said...

The only tragedy of this event was that Braden wasn't the ref during this match! I think people would be dancing and cheering had Braden been the ref.

@Cam_Lag said...

Wow what a loser, 12 was it? Mike Tysoned is his name? Seriously he's more of a tool than the Affliction tanned jacked dude at the bar who says "why'd you look at me?" control yourself buddy, sure you're losing the game and it was scrappy but come on, who hits the ref?
I Feel bad for the players on both squads who just came to play. Kudos to Poland for keeping it together, Hopefully there is a clear enough video for the right punishments to be dealt!

Anonymous said...

Maybe its time to say goodbye to all African teams. It has nothing to do with racism but consistent poor sportsmanship. Somalia not showing up. Nigerian fans accosting team France as they came off the pitch. Sudan and that whole mess. It's apparent these teams are poor sports and do not represent the spirit of the WCP. Liftime bans on all African teams is nessisary.

Playmaker said...

Hmmm. That sounds pretty racist to me. You can't say you're not racist and then propose banning all teams that have similar racial and geographic heritage. And oh, they all just happen to be the teams with black players. Doesn't work that way. What you're proposing is racist.

Anonymous said...

Neat! Playmaker what about Jamaica than. Guess your theory is wrong. GJ and way to call racist as soon as possible.

Anonymous said...

Jamaica ia all Irish players. :o)

Anonymous said...

Ya sorry playmaker. Then 3 teams in question have shown themselves to be very bad sports. So ban those teams and the players come back as Niger Chad and Kenya? It's clear they do not represent the spirit of the WCP and maybe African teams should not be asked back.

Playmaker said...

There are numerous teams in the tournament that are very bad sports that aren't African teams. There are numerous players in the tournament that are very bad sports that aren't black. Before last night, the only teams that had received red cards were Portugal and France - white teams. Why isn't there a call to ban the almost all-white Poland? It takes two teams to have a brawl.

It's always interesting to see how fast people in Saskatchewan will propose banning those that are different. Its a multicultural tournament. There will be significantly fewer cultures represented if we unilaterally ban an entire continent. Doesn't get much more racist than that.

Anonymous said...

The fans that were going after the France players were not Nigeria fans they were Sudanese fans as the majority were wearing the supporting colors of red. They were there supporting Nigeria as a fellow African nation but I would have to say in no ways portrays the way the Nigeria fans mentality. Some of the Sudan players and fans are a disgrace

Anonymous said...

Nigeria has been playing in this tournament for the last 8 years, Botswana played for 5 years with no major incidences. Why are you lumping all African teams together? to suggest that all African teams be banned is just pure racism Its usually the ignorant people that don't understand that. Racism goes both ways. I was in the stands during the Sudan Poland game and heard fans from both sides making racist comments which was appalling to me. Especially at a multicultural event and during anti-bullying day.
It is sad to see such ignorant comments here.

Anonymous said...

Hey playermaker. is what the African teams did factual. Did they perform physical violence against innocent people? Yes they did 100 percent fact.do you can go on this? I think that you are the worst kind of reverse racist I have ever seen. racism is too easy of a card to pull. Try making your arguments based upon factual information.as for the red cards that were issued to team Portugal and team france they were both on a technicality not on malice.racism can go both ways my friend.

Playmaker said...

Interesting. I've never heard the concept of a reverse racist before. Standing up for those that are prejudiced against? That seems like the easiest kind of made-up card to throw in your argument.

The "racism card" is easy to play because racism happens all the time, continuously. Just because people are too ignorant to understand why their comments are racist, doesn't make it OK. They deserve to be called out.

I love how you didn't bother to mention Poland in your rebuttal. Did Poland perform physical violence against other people? Is that factual? lol

Anonymous said...

I think what my moronic young friend is trying to say is yes there has been unfair play by all countries involved. However the atrocities committed by some fans and some players has reached a new level. Should African teams be banned from the tournament all together? No. Should the players involved be banned for life? Yes. It is wrong to defend someone who has committed this new level of violence. It is more unfair to lump together people who disagree with what has been committed as racist.

Anonymous said...

I seem to remember that Polish Fans chased almost chased a referee out of the building a few years ago... Besides -- there is a reason that Wolsik has the highest number of cards in the fantasy draft -- that dude gets an "I'm stupid card" almost every game. I seem to remember that he started the mass confrontation with a polish wangster chest bump. You should have heard the stuff that Polish fans were saying last night -- none of which should be repeated. Don't get me wrong -- I actually cheer for Poland most of the time -- I am just saying "they" (ie a select few players and fans) are not exactly innocent in the entire situation. Well done on trying to educate the masses PlayMaker.

Anonymous said...

Anon 10:11. You're way off the mark on this. You're throwing the baby out with the bath water here bud. You are painting all black people with the same brush. What's next? We should ban all Asian players because South Korea sucks? Or maybe we should ban all white teams because ROI was drunk at a game last year? What youre saying is no different than a blanket statement like all people withngerman heritage are nazi's. Should the Sudan players (surely it wasnt the entire team involved in this?). involved be fined/banned/suspended? Absolutely.. Should thenSomalia team be baned/fined/suspended absolutely. Should be ban all African teams that have nothing to to do with anything against the rules? You're way off base on that one.

Anonymous said...

Yeah that's going to look good, kick the africans out. Apartheid was such a wonderful system we might as well start applying it to sporting events right? If they're not allowed to play will they be allowed to use the same drinking fountains as white people?

Please take a few minutes to think about how ridiculous that post makes you sound. Then maybe you can see that, yes, banning people from participating in a sporting event based on their ancestry is in fact racist.

P.S. There's not much of a point in having a World Cup if you're going to start banning entire continents haha.

Playmaker said...

I think we all need tone down the rhetoric a bit. What happened last night sucked and was pretty bad. However, it was not a new level of violence - it was a punch. It happened to a referee and that arguably makes it worse, but it wasn't like the guy started beating the snot out of him after he hit the ground or anything. You can go to any bar in the city on the weekend and see a lot worse than what happened last night.

As for banning people for life? The only person that could happen to is the guy who hit the ref. No one else. And I doubt even that will happen. It was violence against an official, not a murder - a lifetime ban is an extreme punishment.

And for the people in the brawl - good luck. Unless they punish Poland equally (which won't happen because of the semifinal) then Sudan will probably be good to go. Individual player suspensions are still possible, but not blanket team suspensions.

Anonymous said...

After the brawl and red cards,if the refs called the game with Poland up 3-1 and time left, I believe that the Sudan team/staff/fans would have possibly attacked them worse for sure. I can't understand why that Sudan #12 punched the ref with so many witnesses and left the field covering his face. What a coward to hit a person with no warning!!! That guy needs a life band from soccer in the world, anger management courses and assault criminal charges for that act. Maybe Kevin should look at having Police at these high intense games for everyone's safety?

@Cam_Lag said...

What exactly happened between fans and players after the France/Nigeria game?

Anonymous said...

If there is such a large issue with safety and security at this tournament brining in police is not the way to address it. Maybe looking at the tours,net itself is the way to resolve it. Not to blame things on the committee, but its well known that aggressive play is to be tolerated in this tournament. It creates a hostile environment for the players and the it rattles up the fans as well.

We play enough to watch this tournament, adding to our tax dollars to bring in police to babysit a RECREATIONAL tournament because adults dont know how to conduct themselves in public is off the charts for idiotic ideas! What exactly are police going to do to prevent this? Sit on officer on each bench and scatter a few in the stands? Get real. It's the referees job to manage the game to prevent it from reaching a boiling point like this. Unfortunately with this tournanament the referees are in a tough position where they are asked to let it get to a boiling point.

I love Kevin and what he's trying to do here but you had to see this coming at some point...watered down talent due to way too many teams means more hack players on rosters. Relaxed rules on aggressive play means these hack plays (like the cleats up slide tackle the aparently started this) happen more often and players get increasingly more aggressive to see where the limits are...especially in the playoffs. Or you get a weak player that doesn't know how to properly prepare the body for contact within the rules and then they scream bloody murder on a perfectly good tackle and seeks out unwarranted revenge.

All around shitty situation but it was the perfect storm of 2 very passionate teams and fan bases pushing the boundaries of what is allowed in this tournament. Blame could be placed all over the place from the committee to the refs, players, fans and coaches.m tough spot for Kevin now.

Playmaker said...

I'll clear something up. Referees have NOT been asked to let more stuff go on reckless challenges or dirty play. The Organizing Committee only changed rules about kick-ins and free kicks and such, nothing about fouls. Each caution or dismissal is supposed to be handled just like every other game.

The only exception to this is if there are too many players on the field. They don't want us to caution if it was accidental. Just make that team play short for two minutes.

Anonymous said...

Well I've watched, coached played at all levels of adult and youth soccer in regina and I have never seen so much aggressive play get overlooked than at this tournament.

Anonymous said...

After watching that Sudan player have no regard to hitting that ref, I was scared for my family's safety to see that whole Sudan team walk by us in the stands. Glad we didn't have any loud beaking Polish fans next to us or who knows what could have happening.

Anonymous said...

Cam, from what I heard from a few people is that a few of the Sudan fans decided to take matters into there own hands and get off the stands and make it difficult for the France players to get to the locker room, while doing this they would circle the odd France player and threaten them, and make things confrontational. It is a complete disgrace to the tournament and the Sudanese community that the odd ball fan would do such a thing.

Anonymous said...

Your an idiot if you say ban all the african teams? Are you kidding me? So just cause Nigeria had bad fans, even though they were Sudan fans, Nigeria should get banned? What about the players from Sudan who are actually really nice and classy guys like Noor and Tong Tong? So your basically saying ban the black people? This is not the 18th century anymore. There is no blacks and whites anymore, there is only good and bad. What about Jamaica and all those other teams that have black people, should they get banned too? And for your information, Africa has countries with white people too, so should they get banned? Or should they be allowed to play cause they are white. Get your head out of your ass.

Anonymous said...

Yea I love to watch Tong play with his great goals in these tournaments. We should suspend the players only who caused the violent acts and send out warnings to future teams about this unacceptable behaviour(stronger suspensions/fines). I was wondering if all WCP teams have certified coaches on the bench who might be better suitable in controlling their team or just anybody from their heritage?

@Cam_Lag said...

That's pretty stupid too, France didn't even do anything to provoke it, just a questionable/ late encroachment call on the first PK? Either way though, that comment about banning African teams is down right ignorant.

Anonymous said...

With this being a rec tournament I would Assume there are no requirements to have a certified coach on the bench. Some teams I know for a fact their 'coaches' are not certified. Just people helping out.

Playmaker said...

No requirements for a coach on the bench. Norway doesn't have one and its not in the rules either. You just need to be registered with SaskSoccer in some capacity to be on the field.

For the person scared for your family's safety - cool your jets. The chances anything was going to happen afterwards last night was slim. No need for everyone to start thinking Sudan is a bunch of thugs, because they're not. It was a bad incident. Bad incidents happen but then we all move on. Let's give them credit for making it to the locker room after being forced to walk through the gauntlet of booing fans. Put yourself in their shoes and realize that was a shitty situation for them too

Anonymous said...

This whole tournament is stupid, you get these ppl that think there "warriors" for there countries and turn into a different, the following countries are the worse for I have seen in the past

Greece
Nigeria
Afghan-at times not all the time
Chile
Poland-at times not all the time
Sudan

All these players on those teams play in the regina leagues like "oh who gives a sh_t"

and then WCP comes along,

"oh now its time to Heman and The Terminator mode"

its almost they lose a touch of reality or something and the worse thing about these teams, THEY WILL NEVER WIN A WCP except Sudan but got lucky. I think all these teams should be given a warning except life time ban for Sudan


Anonymous said...

I agree with the statement above,

I know that Greece has tried to stir some things up

Nigeria should be fined for there fans being complete fools,

Afghan- some of there players are bad especially Dyia

Chile- thank god there gone, all they did was try to fight people after the game

Poland - Most of them are good but I agree some of them act like idiots out there

Sudan- no comment. everyone knows what should be done.

Anonymous said...

what a joke... people are so dumb and ignorant. so much for a multi cultural event. Bunch of racist people.

Anonymous said...

What a f did Nigeria do? Ref blows their game and still shook his hands and shook hands with all the France players before walking away and not causing any caos and you fools come hear and talk shit about them? Get real and pull your heads out of your arsses

Anonymous said...

Nigeria has caused ton of problems before! the tim v jimmy issue and Nigerian fans were extremely stupid

Anonymous said...

Noor and his foolish teammates on Sundan are protecting the coward who knocked out the ref. Don't lie and say you don't know him. It's quite sad. Please help out the Regina Police Service. See link below.

http://www.leaderpost.com/news/crime/Regina+police+seeking+suspect+allegedly+assaulted+referee+soccer/8229486/story.html

Anonymous said...

I just want to say that I think it is absolutely ridiculous that we have to bring race/color into this. It's so sad that we still have racist people around. I am shocked at the comments. Give me a break. Grow up already. We are a multicultural society. Give your head a shake.

I also want to say that Poland is known for starting shit. They always do. Aleks Wosik always runs his mouth and starts trouble then goes and hides. He was telling people last night he didn't punch anyone. Yes, we know that, but you started it all idiot. Both teams are responsible, and I don't condone any of it. Some Poland players may need to be banned/suspended. Start with Wosik. No one really cares to watch his dirty style of play anyways. Sad.

Anonymous said...

I don't think Noor is a classy guy at all. He is a hot head who really doesn't show his true colors very often. Why do you think he doesn't play soccer anymore. He loses his cool a lot. It's not fun to watch. If Noor was classy he would have checked the official that got knocked out. Div 4 quality goal keeping cost Sudan the game.

Anonymous said...

Your personal vendetta against Aleks is pathetic, he actually didn't start any of that get your story straight.

Anonymous said...

Aleks was throwing punches and to show that he's such a coward he was chasing the smallest guy on the field, that fool always argues ant every call and even the polish fans are always yelling at him to chill, he should have been sent off first

Anonymous said...



So we have people asking for certified coaching??? are you serious? name me 5 coaches who are certified to actually coach... not the weekend clinic that that you can take to become a coach here because if thats what you mean by certified than you have no idea what your saying.

The questions is why dont they have experience quality refs who are not bais and wont chose sides, who are not part of the tournament other then referee;s. I am by no means saying what happened yesterday is acceptable. That should have NEVER happened. However referees need to have better control over the games. I dont understand how we can have refs, refing the tournament while they are players on a team that is competing. It makes no sense.... Why do we have the person who is in charge of this tournament palying?? i dont know how that makes sense and not expect the refs to pick sides.

Again what happened yesterday should have never happened and i deeply feel for that referee and hope he is ok however we are missing a big picture here and hope you guys understand my point.

Anonymous said...

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/saskatchewan/story/2013/04/11/sk-soccer-ref-incident-1304.html

This is a better link. Has a video too.

Playmaker said...

Well, none of the referees doing the men's games were playing in the tournament, so I don't know what you actually want from your first point.

And your second point is equally ridiculous. How would Kevin be able to influence the outcomes of games? Or the decisions referees make. None of the referees care who wins and who loses. This is the first time in like 5 years that Jamaica has even made the playoffs.

Anonymous said...

Anon: April 11, 2013 at 5:19 PM no personal vendetta. I speak the truth. Wosik is a dirt bag. Needs to be banned, or needs to be forced to quit. No one likes him, no one condones his style of play. Definitely should have been sent off in the Sudan game. That is most certain.

Anonymous said...

Anon: April 11, 2013 at 5:39 PM maybe someone will break the fools leg next year and we can all celebrate. It's bound to happen.

Anonymous said...

I just wonder if whoever wrote this was at the game... "On the chin!!?? haha not even close to the chin... If we are going to comment on something that serious, we should be certain of what we are saying.

Tim said...

Lets Clarify something here. I saw my name come up. Tim Vs Jimmy issue? I didn't know there was a vs. This was over 6 years ago? I've known Jimmy for many years Prior to WCP and hes never seen me be violent with any one. Jimmy over heard a conversation I was having with my wife on my way to my car in the parking lot. She asked why I was upset. I told her "I was so mad at the ref (Jimmy) I could have hit him but I cant do that...". Jimmy over heard this and reported it. I wrote a written apology to Jimmy and served my one year suspension.

So Please leave my name out of this shit, especially when you do not know the whole story and Leave my Team out of it because we have tried to portray positivity through out this tournaments.


Reading through the blog just make me realize that there so many closet racists that hide behind animosity in this city and its sad. It makes me sad to know that my children will have to grow up in this type of environment. This is 2013, Grow up people.

As for last nights incident, its truly unfortunate and sad to watch. No one deserves to be assaulted.
I hope the player will turn himself in and deal with the consequences on his actions

Anonymous said...

I dont understand how they dont know who the guys is. Cant they just check the game sheet for who #12 is?

Anonymous said...

unfortunate incident! We are humans, as humans we make many mistakes... It was a reaction, lets not forget everyone of us have done something we regret once or maybe twice in our life... It is sad to read all the comments, it is sad that everyone is ready to judge that way... I hope that everybody takes a moment to reflect on this and learn from this situation. We are a human race, it shouldn't matter what color, religion, or culture we are, we are all brothers and sisters.

Anonymous said...

Anon 5:59: Have you completely lost your mind? Your entire post is factless delusional ideas from start to finish.

As for certified coaches there are a TON highly certified coaches involved in this tournament that are Pre-B qualified or higher involved with teams as players and coaches. And having someone that has actually taken a course for a weekend has a lot more respect from me than some anonymous clown that clearly doesn't know what they are talking about. Very few of the teams actually have a designated coach, but several of the players take leadership roles within the team and those guys tend to be highly certified coaches. and What's the point to naming guys that are certified when ignorant losers will just trash talk them saying they know nothing, which has been the case when other highly certified coaches have been brought up on these blogs that aren't even involved in this tournament (IE: Bryce Chapman, Percy Hoff, Hugh Dooley, Dwayne Head and more have all been beaked on here and all have high certification and have coached very high caliber soccer). If you really must know, get copies of the rosters and you'll easily find 10-15 high level coaches involved in the men's teams alone and probably twice as many involved on the youth and women's side of things.

As for the perceived conflict of interest in this tourney you see from officials involved. I ask you: What team is Steven Pollock a part of? He's the one that was assaulted. What involvement does he have with a team that could lead to him deserves such a punishment as being assaulted like that? And I haven't seen any players ref games for teams they have played for and none that are currently playing are reffing within their division either. You're a joke dude. There are very few quality refs in this city because shit like this chases them from the game. And the few that still do ref are typically younger and still play themselves. Good luck finding quality ref's that have no ties to any players. It's a VERY small soccer community in a relatively small city.

On the topic of the quality of officiating I ask you this: As a player how much practice and warm up and touches do you get on the ball before you enter a game? Most teams in this tourney will have a few practices, and have a solid 30 minute warm up prior to their game time. And most players have put in hundreds if not thousands of hours practicing in their youth to hone their skills. So my question is: What opportunity does an official have to practice making split second decisions and calls and analyzing plays to judge whether a call should be made or not? ZERO. The games are their only opportunity to learn and develop. So a referee who gets zero in game practice is held to a higher standard for their mistakes than a player who makes a mistake with a pour pass/shot/save/whatever who has had the opportunity to practice that skills hundreds or thousands of times? I've never been a soccer referee and I understand how difficult it is to become a quality official, especially when faced with delusional fans such as yourself expecting us to have world class officials and treating this rec tournament as though it's the real World Cup.

I find it entertaining that you mention in your post about people taking a weekend course and not knowing what they are doing, yet you post such a completely ignorant post like that. I'm embarrassed for you and I don't even know you dude! You have less credibility than the refs and non-certified coaches you speak of.

Anonymous said...

all those coaches you listed suck bro!

all they do is steal players that good coaches brought up and use them, horrible coaches, none of them have won a thing!!!

Anonymous said...

Lol...typical ignorant response from these forums. Do you really think they just hand out National B and UEFA A licenses to anyone? And a professional team is going to affiliate with some joe blow? And the Canadian National Training Centres bring in duds for coaches?

You're clearly one of those losers that thinks they are gods gift to regina soccer and you know everything that will change the world. Did one of those coaches cut you from a team because you suck? Is that why you are bitter?

Grow up dude.

Anonymous said...

anyone dud can get a "National B or UEFA A"

Have they accomplished anything? some of those coaches you named off havent even won a provinal title!

so you know what, ya they are duds and so are you

and for those coaches to have a UEFA coaching certificate or whatever

why are they in Regina still? keep dreaming bud

Anonymous said...

Regina and Saskatoon refs can do group rounds and after that all quarterfinal games should Be done by refs from outside the province am sure wcp can get 2 refs and cater them for a week, use Regina refs as lines men the most and we will be all right, using ppl you go out for drinks after games is not goog for the tournament

Playmaker said...

I can guarantee you that the Organizing Committee will never use out of province refs for this tournament. They wouldn't even cover the costs of assistant referees for group games so there's no way they'll do travel, meals, and accommodations.

Also, getting two refs wouldn't work because you can't have the same guys doing the same teams for quarterfinals, semifinals and finals.

Everyone complains about the officiating, but maybe you should talk to the organizers about the restrictions they've placed on some of the people who can and can't do games. This tournament is not an accurate reflection of the top officials in the province.

Anonymous said...

Would it really matter where the refs are from??? NO!!

No matter what level of ref, or where they reside, there is one commonality. People ALWAYS bitch about refs. When is the last time you heard someone say the following statement: "wow, that ref really won the game for us!" Um, probably never. People watch through tainted glasses and always think refs are out to get their team and help the other team win.

Here is a newsflash people, refs don't care about who wins, or loses in 99% of games. They are human and will make mistakes, just like every single coach and player makes every single time they go to a field. Have you ever played a perfect game? NO! And nobody will likely ever ref a perfect game either. They are part of the game, like field conditions, weather, luck...

If a ref blows a call, you usually have 49 minutes and 59 seconds (in indoor - longer in outdoor) to do something about it (as in get a goal, not knock him out please). Pollock may not be the best ref, but he tries hard, tries to be consistent and definitely is a nice guy. I'm not saying the level of officiating is spectacular in Regina, or Saskatchewan, but comepeting across the country and watching games on television, you can see that the same inconsistencies are common across the country and the world, so just deal with it, because it will never change.

The first thing I try to teach young players about refs, is they are human and make mistakes, just like them. It's a part of the game that won't change and can really only get worse until people start to realize that.

Riggs

Anonymous said...

Yes refs are humans and I know what you talking about but if you ref a game and after you go out and have a few beers of cos that player is going to have an advantage over someone else who doesn't know the ref and we've seen that over and over its just not good, you can stay in denial and say they don't care about who wins but some of them do, if you are a ref and entire crowd is booing you now you doing something wrong

Anonymous said...

^ Well Said !

Anonymous said...

Anon 3:56
Are you serious about the crowd booing with regards to ref calls??? Let's see tonite. Polish/Jamican fans together and whoever is the loudest will get the ref to make the call or not for that given moment! Give your head a shake or maybe buy me a beer tonite for your comment. Most fans don't know the rules but look at players reaction of diving or complaining with ref.

Anonymous said...

Ha Ha. That's so funny. Let's have the crowd referee the WCP games from now on and let the refs watch from above with beer in hand. At least they will be safe away from the gutless players who sucker punch or verbal abuse from so called loyal heritage fans.

Anonymous said...

It disgusts me how people treat one another, and how they are quick to judge one person but blind to the questionable behavior of the people they keep company. Looks like racism is at an all time high, and I hope all of those involved are ashamed of themselves. Everyone is quick to judge the entire Sudan team when it was one player who struck the ref. I don't think anyone should ever be assaulted, but that being said....he didnt do his job on that field. I don't think it was a matter of bias or race, I think it was all ego. He didnt have control from the start and he is the only person on that field that could have changed the outcome that night. I was standing behind the net when he was pushing the Sudan team to get their injured player(who was unconscious) off the field to continue the game. I'm no doctor but I'm pretty sure he shouldn't have been moved before receiving medical attention. I also want to point out the disgusting behavior of the Poland players and fans. Going up and giving Sudan fans the finger, pouring drinks and spitting on the Sudan players. Throwing out the "n" word like its nothing. My daughters were in the lobby trying to avoid the chaos and had to listen to (not sure if it was an ejected player or fan) yelling about how he was going to wait and kick the f@ck out of the "n" words. My youngest was mortified, as was I that an adult conducted themself that was in front of children.
As for the reffing. There are several things that can be done better in organizing refs. I think it is conflict of interest for a player to lines two games that get a team to a final and then be wearing a Polska shirt while watching the final.....especially when he is a player in the tournament. Reffing our friends is likely not a good idea. I think having refs who have reffed less than a handful of games this indoor is a joke. How much did we see of Daniel, Chris, Emerson, Christine, Hans, to name a few. If we are comparing reffing mistakes to soccer mistakes....would you not expect a ref who has not been"practicing" to make more mistakes.
Anyway, after reading all of these negative comments I just felt like I would give my opinion.....

Anonymous said...

Hey Anon 9:47
It sounds like you got a beef with all the refs (know them by name) used in this tournament because you weren't selected. I can understand why with your comments and observations above. I bet you are one of those money refs doing countless games thru the indoor leagues who was complaining about missing out on money for three weeks. Did you have a red Sudan country shirt on at the game behind the net? Because you seem to be trashing the game refs and Poland players/fans only. As for the Sudan injury, it looked like the ref was looking around the place for medicial attention in our view. We didn't see the ref get the Sudan players to pick their player up by his arm either(maybe your one sided view glasses missed that fact). But we were wondering in the stands why WCP didn't have any emergency staff on hand for these situations for these big games???

Anonymous said...

Lol. No I am not a ref at all....just a fan of the game. I don't have a "beef" with anyone. I just think that there is opportunity for improvement when it comes to choices made for designating refs for games. I guess everyone has a different view of the things that happened that night....I would just like to see everyone who played a part in that night learn from this and be held accountable. It just frustrated me that all that I hear about is how the Sudan team was at fault...I feel a lot of people made some pretty questionable choices that night. As for having emergency staff on hand, that is a great idea. I think this should be a must with a tournament of this size. Again ...just my opinion