Monday, April 9, 2012

2012 Day 11 Preview - Mon April 9

Three games tonight and they all might be worth watching.

Italy vs Norway, 7:30 p.m. - Covered this in my preview already. Norway should win.

Portugal vs Hungary, 8:30 p.m. - Should be an interesting game because this is for pride more than anything. I don't think either team expects to make the playoffs in this tough group so whichever team wins shows that they're respectable and watch out in 2013. Mind you, Hungary only has one loss and it was a close one, so I guess the game still means potential playoffs to them. Hungary wins 3-2.

Northern Ireland vs Laos, 9:30 p.m. - Northern Ireland got smoked pretty good against Afghanistan and they're nowhere near as talented as Laos. But maybe Laos is due for a letdown before it goes against Canada, Jamaica and a tough Colombia. Maybe. Still, Laos doesn't lose gimme games. Laos wins 6-1.

25 comments:

Anonymous said...

Go Hungary!!

Anonymous said...

Braden your math is wrong on your standings? How is ROI only plus 15 when they've scored 25 goals and let in 5?

What are the regulations for a tie break? Between two teams? Between three teams?

Playmaker said...

Yeah, my bad for the +/- I was half asleep when I did them this morning. Let me know if there are any other mistakes.

I believe, but I'm not sure, that the tie-break goes head-to-head, then goal differential, then goals for, then goals against. I'll try and figure out the exact method in the next couple days.

Anonymous said...

I wish I could come tonight to see N. Ireland get absolutely slaughtered! not only is Laos as tough a team than Afghan (if not stronger), but with N. Ireland playing back to back nights they'll be even slower. Hopefully Bill G. will stop bragging about how great N. Ireland is now that they've actually play in a Pool that wasn't the easiest in the tourney.

Anonymous said...

I will have to agree with the above comment....and hope they get more than 3 shots against Laos tonight...as for giving up shots/chances...i predict another shooting gallary...i say shots will be 40-5

Anonymous said...

its so weird how ROI is good and Northern Ireland is so bad.

Anonymous said...

Not really weird - ROI started out with Div. 2/premier players and stuck with them through solid results and keeping good players. N. I. started out with Div. 5 players and guys that hadn't played in a decade(at least they upgraded to middle of the road Div. 4 players 5 years later) and though their outstanding management by a guy that has never played the game or ever even been involved in the game beyond this team stayed the course and didn't improve in any area aside from dropping the 60 year olds from the first year...the worst news for them is they have no young talent coming in at all...this is the best they are going to get...

Anonymous said...

its pretty plain and simple...there is atleast half the guys on N.Ireland that should not be playing...if they would lose some of the guys that are only on the team cause they have been with team forever,then it would be a different team...maybe not a top team, but a more contending team

Anonymous said...

they did bring in some younger talent this year...alot of that CUFC team from Div 3 are on the team...they just need to lose about 6 guys on that team that shuld of left the team years ago...they also brought in a Coach this year that actually speaks and has played soccer...if they get Rid of Manager, and 6 or so guys that are bringing the team down with they way they play, i think things could look up for them, if they dont, most of the players are going to leave the team

Anonymous said...

anon 12:29,

laos is a way stronger team than afghan. beating jamaica 5-3 and giving N.Ireland a shit kicking doesn't rank you as one of the best teams in the tournament. when you beat a team like ROI, laos, or france... then maybe you can start talking but so far afghan has beatin no one significant.

Anonymous said...

From all accounts I've heard from guys on that team, this new coach doesn't do anything but stand there.

And clarification: Young talent in my mind is guys that are like 21 and under...guys to build on for a lot of years to come. Moving out a 36 year old and replacing them with a 28 or 30 y/o is not getting young talent it's just getting a little younger. I haven't seen their roster with ages when when I watch them play I don't see many (if any) guys are much under 25ish. They need to do what Poland did 3 years ago and what Scotland did this year (Serbia kind of did it this year, but kept a lot of old guys)...turf the old guys and bring in a pile of kids that you can build on and at least use their youthful energy and speed to keep the hopes up for the team going forward.

Anonymous said...

I don't know if I agree with you.
Yes youth is key but look at ROI? There youngest players that contribute are 23 & 24. The few guys that they have that are younger as just there to fill out the roster. The majority range from 26 - 32.

Anonymous said...

Yes but the ROI players are talented.. N.I. has no talent. The youngest/best player they ever had was Taylor Haid and he made the smart move to get out there.

Anonymous said...

I do agree with you guys....and they did bring 2 coaches in this year...one stands there and does nothing, the other actually is letting these players know what they are doing right and wrong and getting on them about it...apperently that didnt do much but i agree that these guys need to lose players and get some younger talent...these guys dont have any ball control or structure out there at all..I know a handful of players off there team that wanted to find another team before this year so expect them to leave

Anonymous said...

Comparing ROI, who is bringing in the top talent in the whole province for 26-32 y/o, is a lot different than bringing in middle of the road Regina Div. 3/4 26-32 y/o. For elite athletes, 25-29 are the prime athletic years since they continually push against higher levels of competition and now have the experience to count on. For the most part, Joe Blow who plays on a beer drinking team that meets for soccer once a week, all you're doing is just compiling bad habits after age 20 or so as you rarely have coaches directing you and you're not training aside from games. It's not taken serious enough to actually put effort or thought into becoming significantly better. ROI is a collection of experienced reasonably elite players. N.I. is a team of older...I don't even know what to call them..."has been's" would imply they actually accomplished something at some point in their soccer career. For the youth that Scotland has they have kids that have competed at nationals in U18 or younger levels...they are still building on their skills and getting better. Who knows if it will pan out or not, but at least they have hope to look forward too if they keep them together.

Youth doesn't automatically beat super talent (like ROI), but youth will beat mediocrity in most cases. In the absence of talent youth can turn into talent someday. Scotland has lots of youth, but will be beat ROI next weekend? Doubt it. Give them a couple years to grow and fill out and they might. Scotland may never be a super power in this tournament (or they might be if they keep progressing and building on the youth who knows), but one thing is for sure, they are light years away from teams like N.I. who are not acquiring better talent OR youth for their team.

Just my opinon.

Anonymous said...

Sounds like another boring night to me, like most of the games this weekend. Norway and Laos will cruise to easy victories and nobody cares about the other game, unless they are from that country or have a friend/relative on the team.

Why is everyone hating on ni? There are worse teams in the tournament than them.

Riggs

Anonymous said...

Riggs...a few guys on NI have been bragging since they tied ROI a few years ago and every year they pull up with one BIG tie that's way above their skill level and a win or 2 against bottom feeders and claim that they are a top contender next year because of it. At least the worse teams in the tourney either keep their mouths shut, or they opening accept their skill and are just in it for their countries representation.

Anonymous said...

Tying ROI is a great feat, so who wouldn't be proud of it. A group of them came up and watched the last game after getting thumped by Afghanistan. Any team that can come drink together and watch a game after a bad loss must be decent guys. Get over it, they have some hard tacklers and work hard, just ran into a team that's on a roll with a great striker.

I could be wrong, but none of them came off as overconfident to me.

Riggs

Anonymous said...

I hope word gets around the NI has been bragging about tying ROI as I can see ROI putting their foot on full throttle like they did vs Serbia in the last five minutes.

ROI has more depth than anything. They did bring in a big name transfer, but they also have a few players that really hurt them (2 bald guys, and the two younger lads)

I do like your thinking about the youth; but if they haven't developed into an elite player by 16, then it's almost a rare case that they develop much more than they already have.

Anonymous said...

I have to say that there are some guys on N.Ireland that do think they are better then everyone and dont know how to keep there mouths shut, and those are the same guys who will not be on the team next year. They have a bad attitude on and off the field and it makes the rest of the team look bad and get a bad wrap for it. Majority of the guys are just out to have fun and take part in the WCP Cup. I know this first hand and can speak for most of them when i say...as long as we put in a good fight during the tournament, then that all that matters (maybe besides last nights game) I saw a handful of guys that actually played their hearts out last night...if the rest of the team did that, than it might of been "A little" closer...just my opinion

Anonymous said...

Teams that are competitive in this tournament consist of players that play in the Div 2. Regina/stoon leagues, or players that have played in these leagues on competitive teams. If you do not have players that have played a level that high, then your team will have no chance at ever being realistically competitive in this tournament. Sure bringing in younger players is great, but if they only weigh 125 pounds and have never played in a mens league before, then chances are the majority of them are not going to be impact players until.
Great to see NI entering a team every year and coming out and competing. Not everyone enters the tournament with the goal of winning. winning one or 2 games is enough for them to be satisfied. Playing in the wcp cup atmosphere is what will keep them coming back.

Anonymous said...

I agree with the above comment, as long as games are close and competitive then it keeps teams coming back. It's when you get blown up it game after game that makes a team think..why did we ever enter....as long as N.Ireland puts up a good battle tonight, it might lift some of their spirits....plus it would make it better for wcp in all...good luck to all teams tonight

Anonymous said...

Group B is very exciting and clear that it is group of death.

Anonymous said...

the whole thing with small youth players is to get them in and gain experience early....when they fill out and put on some size and continue their skill, that's when they become impact guys. You don't get better playing skill levels below you, you get better by playing skill levels above you. I agree that youth players NOW won't make a major impact unless they are a phenom, but if you can bring them in and give them a chance they might stay loyal and ride it out until they are all highly skilled you might build a team.

Anonymous said...

NI`s keeper is an egg!