Monday, February 7, 2011

ADIOS - See ya later, Chile

If specualation is correct - and really, that's all I've got at this point - then Chile will not be back for WCP 2011. While it pains to see a team fold, I also have to nod and say, "At least we're not losing any talent."

Looking back at the 2010 standings Chile had an 0-4-0 record in Pool A and finished at -10 with only 5 goals scored. They weren't competitive and never threatened to seriously challenge the top 2 teams in that pool. We've all seen the men's tournament expand to the point where a lot ot teams' talent is ridiculously watered down so I, for one, am happy to see Chile fold up the tent and call it quits.

It would be even better if the men's side were to remain at 22 teams because in a couple of years it might have fallen to 20. Instead, two new teams are joining. On behalf of all the Norway players and fans, I'm crossing my fingers that we're in the same pool as Somalia or Sudan - or both.

10 comments:

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately I would have to disagree with you Brayden, the stats of last years tournament for Chile shouldn't be a reason for you to hate on a team and be glad that they are not going to be this year. For now we are missing a team which is a big part of this tournament and a big part of the fans. The chile fans were one of the best set of fans that have ever been in this tournament. I beleive 2 years ago they won the award for best fans! So as the hater that you are I think it would be good that you be disregarded and the flop of the tournament like one Irish guy was a couple of years ago! Good Luck in the tournament, Norway will need it!
WCPC10

Playmaker said...

Not hating on Chile, just happy we don't have to watch them play again this year. Consistency is important and I'm a fan of keeping the teams that work hard to be competitive every year and don't dwell on past glories. You're only as good as your record says you are. Greece, Italy and England are also on the cusp of irrelevancy, but at least it looks like they're puting in an effort again.
Fans are important, but if the best part of your team is your fans then that's not saying much. The players play the game and the rest of us non-Chile fans had to watch the product and suffer from boredom.

Not really sure what being "disregarded and the flop of the tournament like one Irish guy was a couple of years ago!" means though. Both Ireland teams are still in the tourny and still doing their best to be competitive.

Anonymous said...

He's talking about Collins being booed everytime he touched the ball a couple of years ago. You make posts about Chile being an untalented team then your gonna lose their respect as a player and a ref. So maybe you should be careful what you say.

Playmaker said...

Not sure why Chile is taking it so personally. If they're dropping out of the tournament (not 100% sure that they are) then they've got no one to blame but themselves.

Anonymous said...

While I agree that most teams are watered down and it would be nice to constrict this tournement a little, seeing Chile go is a disappointment. Their fans made a great environment for the games. If you want teams like Chile to be more competitive restict the heritage requirements a little to prevent teams like Ireland/Loas, etc from scooping up all the non-heritage solid players.

Also with limiting the number of teams, it would be great to see this tournament reduced to 16 or 20 teams and have a qualifying tourament for new teams. Bottom 2 teams from the WCP Cup get bumped down to the qualifier tournament. Top 2 teams form the qualifier tournament get a birth into the WCP Cup. Would be a great way to make sure it's a quality tournament. This would also make for a profitable tournament as well...you have 2 tourney's collecting admissions, and for the WCP Cup you aren't paying for quite as much field time, yet more people might comeout becuase you aren't forced to watch a brutal game like England vs. Scotland (or which ever bottom feeder/rebuilding team you want to insert).

Playmaker said...

I'm in favour of something more along the lines of the bottom 2 teams in every pool from the 2011 tournament go to qualifiers for next year. Then all the new teams for 2012 and those relegated from 2011 have a tourny in March 2012 for 4 spots, and the actual WCP Cup in April 2012 only features 20 mens teams total.

For the 2012 tournament, make it the bottom team from each pool gets relegated to the 2013 qualifier, and have those teams play against any prospective new ones for the same four spots again.

This would give new teams a chance to earn a spot, plus make it possible to get back in if you sucked one year. Plus - it would make the games meaningful even for teams that aren't making the playoffs in the actual WCP Cup.

Anonymous said...

To playmaker,, you are correct in saying that greece, italy and england are irrelevant. Speaking for Greece though, the past few years, they have lost a few key players( yianni harbis, jonah gardikiotis) The core has always been there. They are getting older too. its just a cycle. Also, the Greek team has always,always stressed to get above and beyond heritage players, which i believe over the years, they have had at least 90% heritage on their team. There is a lot of pride on the greek team and maybe not this year, but were coming. Just to sidetrack a bit, if this tournament was 100% legit heritage vs legit Heritage ,Greece would be in the Top 3 every single year.This year the Greek team will also not have Jimi cabylis as he is forced out of playing due to injury. We will not give up, thats for sure.

Playmaker said...

I respect that Greece goes hard for heritage players so props to you for that - it's definitely important. What's going on though that Greece can't keep around some undeniably excellent players like Yianni and Jonah? Didn't Greece make the quarterfinals in 2007? Is it coaching or just those players making individual decisions? Wasn't Jonah's dad the coach at one point?

Anonymous said...

I would have to agree with you on the fans thing about Chile. I hate there fans, and I don't think they are even playing any real Chilean beats. It sounds just like the North American First Nations peoples beat. I feel like I am at a pow wow except this one sucks real bad. Then when I try to watch some soccer, I have to look at the Chileans play. I think it would be so much better if they would play with each other rather than just fight each other. They are older now, so they shouldn't be trying to pull off shit they think they can do. They should just play as a team, and maybe just maybe get a decent result.

Anonymous said...

Greece is better off without Jimi. He is so negative and thinks he is the best. You're just a big dude that likes to hit lil people.. Power trip